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Hal Lindsey , I would like to ask you about some things, what I find extremely important, concerning prophesies of the Bible and what is happening in the world today as well as how it came to be this way in the world.
My E-mail to Hal Lindsey
Lindsey, Hal Ministries
Tetelestai Christian Center
23915 Garnier Street
Torrance, CA 90505
800/848-8735 (media services)
Hi Hal . . . (note: yes yes, Hal is extremely homophobic and has gone out of his way to condemn gays many times in the decades after my e-mal to him)
I have read some of your early books and get a lot from you as you speak on TBN. I have my own small TV program up in Seattle and speak on the Prophetic Message of the Bible concerning the Last Day's Church. Also I speak concerning what the Bible says or does not say concerning gays. I don't think I have heard you speak concerning gays, but assume you would hold the same belief as most on TBN. However, I would like to ask you about some things, what I find extremely important, concerning prophesies of the Bible and what is happening in the world today as well as how it came to be this way in the world. All the times I have listen to you it seems that rarely the historical record concerning the major players for the one world gov't is mentioned. Maybe its that you little regard to those that tell us about the exact details step by step of our historical record. From my perspective it seems that it is happenstance that the world is in the state it is in and that only this century really has anything to do with the coming one world gov't. I respect the efforts you are putting into traveling to onsite locations to study current events. However, I am amazed that you have not learned much or just plain ignore history concerning the exact groups that are the people of the New Order. Or at least decided never to air any information to the saints about what's going on under their noses. I have spent all of my 23 (update 2014 now over 40 years) years as a Christian looking into the research of others. Some with very credible credentials. In this day and age I find much confirmation of the things I learned before the computer made it easier. I would really like your input to your expertise on current events on the groups that have since the FLOOD met in secret for the goal of re-birthing the Days of Noah.
The long term name of the group I refer to is "Masons" (Freemasons). Today, they seem innocent community groups doing good. Popes have banned them, George Washington held level one and attended one meeting in his lifetime and after he retired fought them until they had all but lost their influence. The constitution was signed with almost every member a Mason.
Jefferson had nearly included wording that would have utterly changed it. But the lower level Masons fought him tooth and neck to maintain a viable document loosing little to the Mason cause. Lincoln single handedly stopped an attempt to unite the world. Russia was actually formed in New York. The Rothchild's bought and paid for most wars on both sides. Sides was not an issue, but to weary the people was. I can't completely verify it, but a credible source said the current Pope was a cyanide gas salesman before he became Pope, this in the early 40's. He also is suppose to be wearing a secret society emblem next to his cross. The Illuminati was assimilated into the Masons and that group brought horrible wars and nearly accomplished their goals. They always learned quickly and bid their time as time was not an issue until recently. Today, I think you know the leaders. The Counsel on Foreign Relations, Tri-Latteral Commission, and the Builderbergs. All or mostly Masons. Rothchilds took over the banking of the USA early this century and set goals. Control the media and churches was lacking in the previous century in America and they did not want to continue this. For 80 years not they have from inside worked to ever so slightly change the Church in the USA. Mainly through Sunday schools. The Southern Baptists Church has 300 - 400 thousand Masons. Many leaders hold high levels. There are 33 publicly know levels. The top couple of levels knows the details of the one world order. Jack Kemp is a 33rd level Mason. Clinton was holding membership in CFR and Tri-Latteral and was recently promoted to Builderberg where Bush is a high leader. So many of the well known News anchors are CFR members. Mason's 1st 3 levels could be confused with the Christian Church in the USA. But from the 4th level up it radically changes. Christians that won't accept anything but Jesus or the Bible won't rise higher than 4 and they are congratulated for not forsaking their belief, but are never raised higher. Higher you must change to accept God as Architect of the Universe then Deism, then Luciferism or satanism depending if you are in the Scottish or York Rites. They believe Lucifer never fell and is equal to God who really is the dark God. This secret society traces their history to the Flood believing the Day's of Noah was Atlantis. They trace their history very specifically though nations rose and fell, they kept their secret order with precision. Lucifer ( actually the 2 main gods of Egypt) spread to the Greek empire and became many names, yet the secret Masons knew exactly they were the one Lucifer. They had elaborate blood oaths to maintain the secret of the past and the goals. Today if a judge was a Mason of a certain level and the worst murderer was brought to his court he could not allow conviction. One President was a lower level once when a higher level met with him. That President was obligated to obey the higher Mason. This cause a stir with High members so that they in one night raised that President to 33rd level. Something that normally required time and many blood oaths.
I am very generally going over something's about Masons. Once a person learns about the history of the world, which we just are not taught in schools, how can he keep quite? This is why I am so amazed at you Hal. You must know about Masons. There are documents and ex-Masons, just like ex-gov't agents that risk their lives to tell the story. I know a little myself spending a year of my life studying Rosecrusians for a year. It took at that time a year to begin getting material that talks about "masters". This group is and has been co-partners with Masons for some time. The Odd Fellows is anther. It turns out just about all secret societies operate from the Mason higher archly. I have found that witchcraft and covens are connected, though most will deny it, but its right of the Scottish Rites. The Guru's type stuff is connected as well. In more recent times I am finding that the old tale Church prophecy teacher taught concerning the coming anti-christ's kingdom were connected by demon spirits or other processes with otherwise no direct knowledge or connection or common united operating high archly. A common thing was to say satan got on the teletype and sent orders out to all these unrelated groups. Well, I am finding satan has no such power, that he must use mankind and make it look spiritual. He has somethings he can do , but must work through the mankind base. I have seen so many things connecting most all these kinds of groups together without letting many ever having an idea that a few of the highest Masons are giving the orders as it were. UFOs is another thing as well I don't hear much from you about. The MJ12 has a history. Don't you know about it? It is significant for the Church. I remember how prophecy teachers loved to say that they one world gov't would explain the mass disappearance of millions are due to being beamed up by aliens, but now there is a silence on UFOs. UFOs also are very connected to Christ's return, not merely signs in the skies, but they have elaborate histories and are aware of Christ's return and the complete change coming for the Universe. Some are trying to evolved into humanlike to try to be able to access Salvation. Others very aware of a choice made to never have such a chance to return to GOD. It's easy to ignore these elaborate reports from people that say they spend significant time with aliens who give them an account of their history. There is just too much coming from gov't's relationship with aliens to ignore as Christians.
Hal I thank-you for playing a game on TBN that tried to express differences between PRE, MID, and POST Trib theories many years back. I was very Pre being an Assemblies of God person since Saved. I had always been concerned about several issues of prophesies that just didn't make since in a PRE-TRIB Rapture. Just how could the 2 witnesses get Saved so fast and have such an intense ministry in one day. It takes a life time of the Holy Spirit teaching in a close relationship with Jesus to be able to do such a ministry. Moses just isn't coming back and neither is Elijah period. It is so dumb to believe that. Sorry if you believe that! Those 2 ministries are indeed symbolic of the 2 witnesses that really will minister. Besides, the Bible is very amazing it has within its pages a book within a book on these two who are very special to GOD. God took the time to have them written about in the Bible other than the few verses about them. The Bible details their sins, their forgiveness by God and their love life. It shows God calling them to this special ministry. During your game at TBN caused me review certain scripture. AOG & TBN always preached we would meet Jesus in the air where he would immediately give us our rewards. Another place says at the last trumpet. Some have said there is an 8th trumpet of GOD and that was the one sounded, but that is grasping at straws. REV.11:18 specifically says the rewards are given. It further says the Temple is opened for the Saints to enter, and its says that the Mystery of God is accomplished all at the 7th trumpet. (the last trumpet). This happens some 1335 days after the Trib begins. The 2 witnesses witnessed for 1260 days as even Dan. says. What is this 1260 days for? Its for shaking the Church, not to punish unbelievers. satan has 1290 days and this starts at the end coming towards the beginning of the TRIB. The first 30 is trying to kill the 2 witnesses. Their is a 75 day period that the Church reviews all that has happened. They saw the 2 killed by the world leader. Many in the Church were quite happy they were killed. This 1335 day of which 1260 was a wedding gown fitting session where God was doing the fitting. At the beginning the 2 stopped the rain. Heretofore the Church always had moisture for their roots. For 2000 years the Church had rain from the Holy Spirit, this was for to sink roots deep into Jesus, but the Church enjoyed the power it gave them and set out to subdue the world in their own glory. Church history is full of what many even believe today was pretty ungodly behavior. So many innocents were killed and kept from entering into the kingdom at the hands of the Church. Today the Church's behavior is actually worse than all the past Church. A time was set to punish the Church and get it ready for eternity with GOD. The Trib is not foe evil unbelievers except for the very last day of it. Up to the 7th trumpet is to shake the Church, those that put on their wedding gowns by the Rapture, somewhere within that 75 days after the 2 were killed, will be Raptured. There are still many Christians that still would not wear the wedding gown and so 7 bowls are poured out. Finally, many do come to grips with the message and understand it, but it is way to late, so their bodies are healed and can live around 1000 years after that. The Trib is like Israel was during its disobedience and they were scattered, the Church too needed God's long suffering in raising up a kingdom to shake the Church.
What do you know about Lord Maitreya? My 1st info about him was from Benjamin Creme saying he is a master coming from the hills who would at the world's call during a crisis help by accepting world leadership. Another person that I don't recall his name off hand said nearly the same thing from a total different standpoint who dealt a lot with his personal experience with aliens. Another source really shocked me because the last two were guru's and aliens related. This other source is from ex-secret agents. He had documented Lord Maitreya meeting with 200 world leaders with in addition many from the Church leadership and the Vatican in this decade. The purpose was to discuss how he could be announced as world leader and planning the details following a secret gov't made crisis or natural disaster. It had been discussed that the POPE should be the world leader, but the world leaders far favored Lord Maitreya and the POPE to be his assistant. I looked out this name and found it to mean a teacher who taught Jesus and basically meaning someone that is GOD. Their is a web site as well for him. To date I still hear the Church acting like there will be a magical announcement one day of a world leader that is still impossible to know who this might be. Is the Bible wrong or is prophecy teachers afraid to talk about what they really know? I see the Bible saying that this anti-christ's kingdom needs the 6000 years to form with a very clear objective and purpose. I see that the Bible describes a Church that must be shaken so much so that we have reached level 4 of Lev. 26. The Masons have ever so slightly deceived the very elect to the point that soon a large part of the Church will think Jesus lied to them. This can happen because the 2 witnesses shut off the water and only deep rooted Christians can holdfast to their faith. The Bible tells us so many time to holdfast. You see there is no other way a Christian can get lost unless he losses faith. Now with no water and shallow roots its easy for Christians to think Jesus lied to them. For 2000 years Saints has basked in the Holy Spirit's watering. We can feel Jesus so easily thru this watering, Jesus comes so quickly too. Now, with not water Jesus still comes fast, but can't be felt and so faith withers. Those that have deep roots see right away Jesus, though experience the pain of the times, they can persevere. The great falling away is when the water is shut off by the 2 witnesses. Deep roots and shallow roots can not be distinguished until the water is turned off. The shallow roots of the Church is choking new borns to death. TBN today is vastly different than that of several years ago. I almost can't turn it on without seeing party time at TBN. Well, this is not Bible except in Bible prophecy that the Church will be worshipping and singing God's praises looking for Jesus' coming when sudden disasters strikes. They ask why? God say, I am punishing for your ancestor's sins, but why be concerned that I say that, because your sins are worse than theirs.
Hal you been teaching prophecy for a long time, haven't you seen or learned yet, that your days will give way to a new breed of prophets. You won't go away, but you have little to tell Christians in that day do you? Another thing you should figure out is where do gays fit into to this all. Is the Church's condemnation justified of them? I bet you have not spent a moment researching God's move in the gay community have you? Let me quickly explain it to you. Gay Christians are being prepared to restore falling Christians. Yes, those that have persecuted gays for so long will see whom they persecuted are giving them words from God to restore their faith in Jesus. This last lesson of love must be learned. Though they failed to sink their roots into Jesus, God's love reaches out to them through those they've hated and condemned to hell. Hal, you skip over chapters concerning God's people so easily. For years I often wondered why? You preach on EZEK using the last chapters, but never start at the one concerning the Church EZ 34. The OT talks so much about the Last Day's Church it seems strange that main line prophecy teachers miss it. Of course it's not a popular message to say the Church will go thru the TRIB is it? The better more fun message is the Church will miss the Trib all together. You can always after condemning the world to a horrible state of brutal disasters where billions die and just say "but if you accept Christ as Savior you will miss it."
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