My first ever weekly TV program
About Us Gays For Jesus
General info on how the ministry started and progressed through the years
The Stables Ministries/Gays For Jesus founded June 1985
Felt called since day one when I accepted Jesus Jan. 1974. Early 80s I had been writing many letters to many minister for sometime wearing out a typewriter at work during slack time. One day I turned on Public Access (sometime really good programs) and there was a women talking on a subject but for some reason used lesbians as examples of sin. I thought this was enough, all Christian TV always condemning gays and now on public access where it is free to all that want on TV and this women condemn lesbians in a topic that should not need this example of anything.
So I decided to step out in faith asking God to give me a TV station. I sent letters to every station and one wrote beck saying yes you can be on TV for free just come down for a couple hours orientation class. I went. This took 6 months from watching that woman on public access and it was public access that invited me to come in for the class. Finished those 2 hours then another 2 hour class to learn how to use their equipment which was also free to use.
Took it home set it up stared at the camera for over 30 minutes dumb as you can get. What do I do I said. This is scary. So being stupid idiot I decided to just read Ezekiel 34. Well that took maybe 10 minutes so now what so I just started talking about what I know.
From there it took 6 weeks for that program to be on TV. But another crossroads. The station needed a very short title because in those days the display screen character generator could not do long names. So I was stumped. I had already with the same problem thought up "The Stables Ministries" finally Named after my Dog, which i also used as a CB handle, and after a gay bar named stables where I met my first lover (who was with me for ten years). But this name was too long for the TV station. So I came up with Jesus for gays which I thought more appropriate.
The problem with this is in chat rooms people are lazy and take short cuts so I saw I was called Jesus. Well this would not do, so I reversed it to Gays For Jesus shortened for chat to gays4jesus. Gays For Jesus fit perfect in the title screen for the station. The name has gone on to draw 100s of 1000s of people in chats and viewers and more. It is a name that with out lifting a finger generates hours of chat discussion about gays in chat rooms without b=me even at the keyboard.
So 1986 in March my first TV program aired and I have not missed a week since.
I had a call of God almost from birth. I can remember even as young as 3 having conversations with God and really felt he was listening. However, by 5 I was not getting help I assumed should be coming from God and so I rejected him by saying if he did not help me (see testimony for details) I would start believing science had all the answers.
So from 5 yrs old to 27 yrs old science was my God (note I am not a scientist just fabulously interested in it and history and the unknown). Amazing things I learned and in retrospect I know God never left me and guided me through several steps that would be needed in his calling of me. The day I said to God if your are truth I would accept you change the course of my life. Thirty days later I was accepting Jesus at an alter with some 100 other people.
I don't want this to be another testimony so I will skip a lot, you can read my testimony if you like.
Almost immediately Ezekiel 34 began to fall open every time I got near a Bible. I even got concerned it was opening there because it opened there so many time like this. I could not image how God wanted me to preach against what seemed to be wonderful God fearing good doctrine, good faith statement pastors. But still the chapter fell opened and I had many arguments with God/Jesus on this subject. I came in contact with many 100s of pastors and they liked me and about 200 called me up to be prophesied over and God told about his love for me and mine for him and what my calling is.
Generally these pastor did not know I was gay so pretty much treated me like a close confidant many confiding in me about church problems and staff problems relating to their desires to be close to God and Jesus. So it was perplexing as i was blessed in my job to take groups to many denominations and required to sit with them so heh heh forced to listen to sermons including Sunday schools of other denominations for many years. So though I was Pentecostal I got good inside track on other Christians and those pastors also loved me and saw God in me.
Perplexing through 1974 to 1985 I knew Christians thought gay was sin, but the huge church worldwide what hope of they ever being able to know gay is not sin. Jesus would long have been back on Earth and so my theory was when we all get to heaven Jesus would tell every gay was not sin. So my policy was hey just wrong doctrine on a few things so what, though it is horrid what Christians say about gays I was generally bless and heard little of it.
One day I was forced to come out to an Assemblies of God pastor who I have attended his church for over a year and he acknowledge often how he saw God and Jesus in me and often confided in me as was the usual reactions pastors that do not know I am gay have when they see me. They just think God is so close to me that they can trust confidential concerns and that personal need for minister to be able to talk with someone.
So I set up an appointment with him for special counseling because I had to tell him I was gay. At first this was not all that big a deal, but he right away acted like I was coming to him to get delivered I guess. I had mentioned a group of people and his response was many of them were lesbians, his first mistake and a red flag to me that it may not go well after all. I was not seeing him to as a subordinate or his congregational member. I new I was called of God and I knew what I know about the Bible and gays. I very much an expert by then (1985). I did not know that my wherever emotions would flare and grow till I had to stand up against his words. He began quoting parts of verses trying to imply gay is evil with out actually using the anti-gay verses. I was struck in amazement that every phrase he said i heard in my heard the rest of it. God was finishing his sentences in my head. I did not speak out yet. Then I began to talk and explained to him very clearly I did not come to him to get delivered or that I was some sort of stereotype Christian believing gay is sin so I came for his help.
The battle that raged in my head was standing up to a minister called of God and telling him he is wrong. But the nice pastors so full of love and so many time confirmed he saw God and Jesus in me now sprouting horns was not going right and I mild mannered person not caring to much what others thinks also can reach a point that truth is more important than letting him continue bad mouthing gays using verses I was expert in. So I began to tell him he was flat out wrong that gay is not sin, this lasted maybe a hours and finally what could he do, so he said we would agree to disagree cop out statement many Christians use when they can't win.
Now driving home I had quite a talk with God. I said did you see what just happened I taking back to your servant. I am not suppose to do that as I did. I said I do not know of any time in my life that you gave me authority to speak against your servant(s). I said I know your word it says that to do what i was doing means that in my past has to be well established call to do this very thing. I was having it out with God because it had to be Bible not John. A person must be given authority. I said I heard you in my heard filling in sentences that that pastor spoke. (the fill in was completing the sentence meaning with the correct meaning in the context of the verse and sentences.
So I blatantly said God where
is your call to me? Then simply said re-read
. That shut me up cold turkey though I was steaming. I
went home and read it. I was startled and amazed as the
word leaped out at me. I had read this so many times
never seeing any connection to anything really and a
call to condemn wonderful pastors. But now I had 11
years more I had learned so much about gay history and
the verses and tons more I had talked to 1000s I been
there done that and now here it is coming together. i
don't care what anyone thinks this chapter had been
deeply effecting me as it always fell open and I had
dealt with God many time with no answers not suddenly I
understood in as it was revealed to me. GOD HAD GIVEN ME
THE AUTHORITY AND WAS BIBLICALLY BASED OVER 11
God had trained me I was an expert now. I know what the chapter was talking about and he meaning of the need to prophesy against pastors. (not just because of the gay issues but also on the last days and some other issues). Now many year has gone by and even more revelation concerning pastors and the consequences of their ministries in disobedience to God. I get into a lot on my site as you read through the topics and watch my TV programs online.
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